more exercise, more healthy eating, and you'll find that
effects last over four months over two years, despite the fact that
the actual intervention was only an hour and half an hour for the phone follow up.
You still find differences two years later, and
people have been kind of left alone.
So these studies, they were minimal effort.
So I think if people apply it in their life,
then you would see the benefits even, much greater.
>> That's great.
Although than the issue becomes how you actually get yourself to do it,
because there's a kind of chaining problem, right?
Like, I might want to WOOP to do yoga, but then I have to WOOP, and
then I need to WOOP to do the WOOP to do the yoga.
>> Right.
>> So another thing we're talking about a lot in the course is whether the people
come up with the science for this actually use these practices in our lives.
>> [LAUGH] Yeah, sure.
>> Do you WOOP? Do you WOOP every morning?
How do you get yourself to do it?
Has it just become a habit now?
>> Right, I think I probably wouldn't have kind of put so
much effort into doing the app.
>> [LAUGH] >> And doing the website and sitting here.
>> Yeah, yeah.
>> If I hadn't seen the benefits, kind of anecdotally and personally.
Because once you experience them personally then it still has a different
kind of quality than if she read the findings in the literature or
if you actually produce these findings.
>> Yeah.
>> So after a while when you practice WOOP you feel
the benefits because you get so much clarity in life.
And you get so much more clarity about each step you go
that it gets kind of addictive but you need to practice it.
You need to experience it, and you need to experience what it does to
your life in order to get this kind of addiction.
>> Do you have a sense of how long that sort of thing?
Or like when did it become easy when you sought out the WOOPing in the morning?
>> That can vary, I mean, four years ago, or three years ago,
I did a WOOP session with a couple of people.
>> And then I thought there was this one person, and I thought,
okay, this didn't work at all for him.
He left early, and I thought, okay, probably he didn't like it.
I don't know, maybe he had an appointment.
>> [LAUGH] >> Who cares.
Two years later, he came back and said, I'm now married.
I lost so many pounds.
I have my life in order, and
I want that you devise WOOP now to all the people I am working with.
>> Wow. >> So that's a kind of dream story or
whatever.
But you never know maybe sometimes when you really get deep and
you really understand gee, this is an obstacle which held me up for years.
People might get very quickly and then they might feel kind of
motivated to actually do it in daily life on a regular basis too.
Some other people see that their awareness and
their clarity in life grows and then, they do it on a regular basis.
People have stopped smoking and lost a lot of weight,
I mean if you had these benefits then you won't lose it again.
>> Right.
>> But for some it might be a little less kind of immediate and for
them, I mean what helps is just establish a daily ritual.
Maybe do it the morning or do it in the evening before you go to bed.
Take these five minutes same place, same time and just go through it.
It's really a short time so it's not like you need to establish
a kind of routine, jogging for an hour or something.
So it's not so complicated - or going to the gym all the time or something.
But do it at the same place, at the same time, trying to establish a ritual.
And then you don't need to be perfect and WOOP changes with life,
so don't go back to your old wish and say, oh, I need to redo it now.
Just always think about what is my wish for today?
For next week?
Because these wishes, they come from our needs.
We have done research showing that when you make people kind of deficient,
for example, with respect to water, or with respect to meaning,
then that positively fantasize about taking care of this deficiency.
So the positive fantasies come from our needs.
And you can trust that these wishes come from our needs.
And since life changes all the time, it's a constant change and
you develop, these needs are different.
So your wishes come from these needs.
Now, you might have kind of chronic needs because just from your background.
And then let it be, the wishes come and WOOP them and
you don' t need to think, okay, I need to fulfill that wish now.
That's not the issue.
It's very unevaluative.
It's very unperformance.
Just take it in order to lead a more pleasant and
constructive and fulfilling life, that's all.
So you don't need to be perfect.
You can WOOP as many wishes as you have, and you probably have a lot of wishes.
So take it easy, take it unevaluative,
take it as a friend whom you can always ask and say,
what do I really want out of this situation?
Why I'm here?
And so that's the idea, to have a friend who
kind of replaces a lot of maybe coach,
or therapist, or trainer.
That doesn't mean that you shouldn't see a therapist,
if you feel you should see a therapist.
Actually you can WOOP seeing a therapist if you're in a difficult state.
>> Yeah.
>> But take it as a daily help.
And once you understand that it's really a daily help, you will do it anyway.
And you can do it under stressful situations.
So sometimes, stress is such that you.
Forget everything because you're so focused and so stimulus respondent.
Or when you have too much in your life and you're just torn between too many things.
Then take this five minutes out and say, actually what do I really want?
What is it that I really want here?
And then you will see that it will help you enormously to get a little distance.
To collect yourself, to get more aware and
to say okay, that's what I want.
And then you can go ahead and look at outcome obstacle plan.
But don't switch the Os.
>> [LAUGH] >> Because our research shows that once
you switch Os it doesn't work anymore.
The reason is you only can discover obstacle in the framework of the outcome.
So you need to throw the ball into the future first then you
will see what in the reality is the obstacle.
But if you first think about the party, you will think about how nice it
will be and who will be there, and what you will wear or whatever.
And then you think about the good grades in the exam but it doesn't nothing.
>> Right.
>> So you need first the exam then you discover, oops,
the party is now the obstacle.
>> Awesome, well, both for clarifying your needs and for
putting this into a practice in a way where you automatically get through them.
I think it's a technique that a lot of the folk who are taking this course
are going to use a lot.
So thank you so much for sharing tonight.
Again, we encourage everyone in the courses we have and
our lectures to check out woopmylife.org where there's a lot more how to tips,
frequently asked questions about WOOP and so on.
>> Yeah, and you can share your experiences and if you have questions,
write via WOOP My Life, we will always get it and we will always respond.
>> Fantastic.
Thank you so much for joining us today, I really appreciate it.
>> Thank you for having me.
>> Thanks.
