They call this the South Lawn. >> Yeah. >> It's nice enough. It's a lawn. >> The grass is pretty fairly dry here isn't it? >> They could do something about that. But sometimes when I walk through here, I do wonder why they bother calling it the South Lawn. >> Well, you know. >> It's the lawn, I know. >> That's a comment. It's supposed to evoke that lawn, but it looks a lot different. That was the whole idea. You're responding the way you're supposed to respond. If you look at this South Lawn Complex, that's not Jeffersonian, but it is in some ways. Look at the columns. Look at the bricks. >> It's a bit. Yes. I guess I'll give you that. >> All of that stuff evokes the rest of the universe. But what I suggest is that was then this is now. And it's to introduce that element of the passage of time, and progress you might say it's the opposite of progress if you don't like this particularly. >> I like it well enough. Up here, I know we've talked a lot about how Jefferson thought the buildings at his university, they were gonna be educational. And obviously this is a building for education. >> For a different kind of education, isn't it? I mean if that lawn, the original grounds, they teach people something about architectural principles, well, so does the south one. And I think the big thing about education, Jim, is you move from one generation to the next. It's preparing the rising generation to take over. And in a way if the entire university were simply knock-off versions of Jefferson's original architecture, where is the progress? Where are we going? >> Don't we need buildings that speak to our modern condition? And it's not just that. These are smart buildings. This is state of the art. This is the sort of thing that Jefferson would have loved as the inventor, as the innovator, as the person who was all over communications. Well this building, these buildings, this South Lawn is really smart. >> Right. And so if for Jefferson education is the future, in some ways this is the future of the lawn. >> Yeah. It's son of lawn you might say. [LAUGH] Or lawn two, if we were thinking about a motion picture. You know, obviously, this looks different from something Jefferson himself would have designed. Obviously there are materials here that he didn't have. >> But here is your big test. Is it Jeffersonian? >> I think it is because this is. >> A place where students come together. Where they discuss the thing that they're learning about. That's the whole point of his lawn, right? Students are living. >> It's like a village. >> Yeah. >> People coming together. >> I think so. >> The living generation. They're about to take over, aren't they? >> Okay big guy. Lecture time. Let's head down there. >> Right.